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  New edition of APOCALYPSE DELAYED

  by panhandlegirl in

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  a new third edition of apocalypse delayed has been released.

  this may already have been discussed or may be old news but i just saw it on youtube.

  mr penton, the author, says he has included jws attempt to deal with 1914 and their new light on the governing body being faithful and discreet slave in this new edition.

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  If I want objective and scholarly writing, Penton is my favorite author. My only issue is that the price of his other book dealing with JW's in Germany is still very expensive (around $45.00). I found a copy in the library, but it's only for consultation.
  
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  What went wrong in your congregation?

  by The Rebel in

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  2. friends

  the target is converts.. why does it seem such an outrageous aim for a congregation to recruit new converts?.

  in my old congregation, the enthusiasm was there but the knocking on doors produced zero " baptisms" in my final years.. a) why so little interests?.

  b) was it the internet ?.

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  Welcome Silvia,

  You make a great point. I have been in your shoes many, many times, even in my own house while hosting 20 or 30 JW's. It didn't bother me much, until I discovered that the leaders are full of it and they know it. Not only that, they are willing to use their BS to manipulate, control, enslave, and ultimately ruin many a life.
  

  The internet is their biggest problem. Another problem is the training that JW's get. It's mechanical, staged, no passion, no conviction, no zeal. I don't blame them, too much BS and cult tactics prevent the production of great preachers.
  
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  My 67 Year Old Elder Brother Is Depressed Because The Younger Elders Are Taking Over

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  he was the school overseer but they relieved him of that to allow younger elders the privilege of the job.

  now he is depressed and actually shed tears, believing his worth has diminished.

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  My two cents,

  In the organization or outside of the organization, our abilities diminish as we age. Even if our skills remain sharp, we should allow younger ones to take positions of responsibility so they can train and be able to handle the job on their own.

  What happened to your brother is a fact of life in any sphere of the human experience. We are born, we mature, we age into decrepitude, we die. We should accept this cycle and happily train and pass the responsibility to the younger ones. Your brother has a selfish, rather narrow-minded view of his role in the big picture.
  
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  Sister attendants not able to give directions to a brother..Misogyny

  by Theburstbubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at our recent rc i was advised by a sister who was an attendant that they have been advised not to be able to give brothers directions as this should be dealt with by the brothers.

  apparently at the pre-convention attendants meeting, the sisters were asked to stay behind.

  this was when they were given the news that the brothers should deal with brothers.

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  The way things are going, 50 years from now you are going to have two male elders and 90 female publishers. Then, female attendants will have no problem giving instructions, because the entire audience will be female anyways.

  2007 ratio of women to men was 6 to 4

  in 2014 the ratio was 6.5 to 3.5. Big drop in just seven years (according to Pew research)

  I just made some numbers, based on the Pew numbers and the JWFacts publisher statistics, and the net increase between 2007 and 2014 has been about a million women and about a meager 100K men. The problems of this medieval times religion are becoming more obvious.

  I am going to have to ask my son to take a count of my wife's congregation to see if the Pew's numbers are represented there.
  
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  The Org is terrified of apostates

  by SecretSlaveClass in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i knew apostasy was a serious concern for the org, but until i watched this video, i had no idea how afraid they actually were.

  all this guy wants is to do is not turn in his fs hours and immediately they (elders) set about drilling him about who are what influenced his decision, as if he was incapable of making his own (which as the elders confirm, in the org is highly discouraged).

  they are convinced he has been communicating with apostates or visiting apostate web sites.

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  never a jw

  Simonsays to outlaw
  

  "however your ignorant and deceptive ways of your trashy cartoons"

  Hey! I like those cartoons very much. You just violated my 103rd amendment right to be free of criticism of my taste of cartoons.
  
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  Stats of conventions in Mexico

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  2. friends

  i just went to a convention in mazatlan, mexico.. i had wanted to do this for a very long time, it left me shaken a bit (because i had a confrontation of sorts with one jw who recognized me), but i got some stats that give some insight into the borg.

  it really is crumbling, even in the places where they have arguably had the best, wildest success in the world: mexico.. just so you can see how much they have success in mexico compared to the us or anywhere else:.

  top three countries in 2014 were:.

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  One problem with your conclusion is that it misses the fact that there is more than one convention per circuit, per year, where people get baptized. You are not taking into account the people baptized during the same year, in the same circuit, but in a different convention. However, this error may be offset by the fact that not all attendees are publishers and that some missing in the convention have faded or disfellowshipped.

  Interestingly, your figures reflect the statistics of the Pew Research of 2014, in the U.S., that revealed that the ratio of men to women in JW land is almost 1:2 or 1/2
  
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  Court seizes over one million Jehovah's Witnesses brochures brought into Russia

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://red.theworldnewsmedia.org/index.php/en/forum-home-page/jehovah-s-witnesses/93-court-seizes-over-one-million-jehovah-s-witnesses-brochures-brought-into-russia

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  Village idiot

  I am quite ambivalent about freedom of religion being applied to JW's.

  1. First is not a charity
  2. Second, allows children to die in hospitals
  3. Destroy families
  4. Destroys lives
  5. Deceives left and right
  6. Uses abusive language to refer to the rest of the world
  7. Discourages higher education, therefore robs young children of their lives.

  As you can see it's hard to make even a weak case to defend it as a religion
  
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  Brother who works on JW Broadcasting gave a 20 minute talk, said something big is coming next month.

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  via /r/exjw.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc7vhu8l88k.

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  Geoffrey Jackson has been raptured. No one can talk to him unless you are part of the sole channel of communication.
  
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  If jw's obeyed all of the bible commandments what would they be like?

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jw's cite abstaining from blood along with other cherry picked commandments.

  but then ignore the others.

  this is very hippocritical and if they are going to obey one commandment they should be obeying the rest.. just as a bit of fun then... what would jw's be like if they obeyed every rule in the bible?.

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  chaos and confusion. The Bible is a collection of books written at different times, different places, for different audiences, with conflicting political, social and religious views. The last thing that can be said of the Bible is that it is infallible, inerrant or harmonious.
  
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  i feel more confused than ever

  by BlackWolf in

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  2. friends

  well i know i've been posting a lot of topics like this lately and i'm sorry if i sound whiny or annoying.

  my parents were asking me why i was so upset lately and i ended up just telling them the whole truth.

  i told them i don't believe in god or the bible because i don't have any evidence of anything.

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  never a jw

  Plenty of sound advice. But the main thing in this thread or previous ones, no one is telling you what to believe. Do your own research. Don't be scared about Armageddon. According to the Bible and many interpreters that was supposed to happen almost 2000 years ago. Hundreds, if not thousands of religious leaders have predicted Armageddon in every century since Jesus, actually before Jesus lived. Not gonna happen, at least for a long time, and if it does, it may not be due to divine intervention, more like a human made disaster or a natural disaster.